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Her er eksempler fra boka Terrorindustrien om hvordan overvåkingssamfunnet brer om seg:
Måler uronivå i flysetene
QinetiQ, et selskap som er tilknyttet det britiske forsvarsdepartementet, har utviklet en sensor som kan bygges inn i flysetene og måle passasjerenes uro. Tanken er at flypersonalet skal kunne avlese uronivået til de enkelte passasjerene på et kontrollpanel og avsløre eventuelle flykaprere.
Leser hjerneaktivitet
Den amerikanske romfartsadministrasjonen, NASA, har igangsatt et forskningsprosjekt som skal lese passasjerenes hjerne- og hjerteaktivitet for å avdekke hvem som har skumle hensikter for flyturen.
Flyinfo sendes politiet
Britiske myndigheter har bestemt seg for at alle som skal inn i eller ut av landet, må svare på 53 spørsmål. Det dreier seg blant annet om kontaktnummer under ferieoppholdet, hvem man reiser sammen med, og hvilke reiseplaner man har. Opplysningene må overleveres når man kjøper billetten, og distribueres til politimyndigheter, tollvesen, immigrasjonsmyndigheter og sikkerhetstjenesten innen 24 timer før avreise.
Lagrer fingeravtrykk
Når du har landet på amerikansk jord, blir du tatt bilde av og må avgi fingeravtrykk. Fra 2009 skal det gis avtrykk av samtlige fingre, og ikke bare to som tidligere. Systemet skal innføres ved alle amerikanske flyplasser, havner og grenseoverganger, samt ved amerikanske ambassader i forbindelse med visasøknader. Dataene skal lagres i en database i inntil 75 år. Innen juni 2009 skal alle pass og ID-kort i EU-området utstyres med elektronisk lagret foto og fingeravtrykk. Norge og Island plikter å følge kravet gjennom Schengen-samarbeidet.
Ansiktsgjenkjenning
I august 2008 ble det igangsatt en prøveordning for automatisk ansiktsgjenkjenning av flypassasjerer på flyplassen i Manchester og på Stansted i London. Hvis forsøket er vellykket, er planen at utstyret skal være standard ved de fleste flyplasser i Storbritannia i 2010. På Schipol flyplass i Amsterdam har man installert irisskannere.
Ganglag-gjenkjenning
Det amerikanske militærets forsknings- og utviklingsenhet, DARPA, er i ferd med å utvikle et elektronisk system for gjenkjenning av ganglag. Dette skal blant annet brukes til å sortere ut dem som har adgang til regjeringsbygg, på opptil 150 meters avstand. Andre systemer som ligger i støpeskjeen, er gjenkjenning via håndavtrykk, ansiktsuttrykk, øreform, DNA-analyse og kroppslukt.
Identitetsregister
I Storbritannia er det vedtatt å innføre et nasjonalt identitetsregister som skal inneholde opptil 49 opplysninger om alle som befinner seg i landet. Fra 2009 skal alle også ha biometriske ID-kort som knyttes opp mot det nasjonale registeret. Kortet skal blant annet brukes for identifisering på helsekontorer, arbeidskontorer, bibliotek og andre offentlige institusjoner.
Snakkende kamera
Storbritannia har 4,2 millioner sikkerhetskameraer, ett per 14. innbygger. En gjennomsnittlig brite vil filmes 300 ganger per dag. I dag er det ikke lenger science fiction at en høyttaler ber deg plukke opp søppelet du nettopp har kastet på bakken.
Kommunikasjonsovervåking
Echelon, som av mange beskrives som verdens største overvåkningssystem, er underlagt USAs føderale etterretningsorgan, NSA. Systemet har vært hemmeligholdt, men en rapport fra EU-parlamentets teknologivurderingsorgan bekreftet at det finnes, og at formålet er å overvåke all form for elektronisk kommunikasjon, blant annet telefonsamtaler, SMS, faks, e-post og internettrafikk.
Nettbruk-kartlegging
EUs nye datalagringsdirektiv innebærer at det vil registreres hvem du kommuniserer med (gjennom e-post, telefon og SMS), på hvilket tidspunkt, og hvor du befinner deg når du gjør det, samt når du er logget på Internett (ved hjelp av IP-adressen og navn og adresse som følger abonnementet). Dataene skal lagres mellom seks måneder og to år.
Private spionprogram
På Internett kan man kjøpe spionprogramvare for 300-400 kroner som gjør det mulig å totalovervåke en annen mobiltelefon — alt fra hvem vedkommende ringer til og mottar anrop fra, SMS kommunikasjon, adresseliste og WAP-bruk. Man kan også kjøpe programmer som avlytter mobiltelefonens mikrofon, til og med når den ligger passivt i rommet.
Online pc-ransaking
Den tyske innenriksministeren, Wolfgang Schäuble har tatt til orde for at politiet bør gis lov til å gjennomføre online-ransakning av tyske borgeres pc-er.
Utdragene er hentet fra Joakim Hammerlins bok «Terrorindustrien», gjengitt med tillatelse fra forfatteren og forlaget Manifest.
Måler uronivå i flysetene
QinetiQ, et selskap som er tilknyttet det britiske forsvarsdepartementet, har utviklet en sensor som kan bygges inn i flysetene og måle passasjerenes uro. Tanken er at flypersonalet skal kunne avlese uronivået til de enkelte passasjerene på et kontrollpanel og avsløre eventuelle flykaprere.
Leser hjerneaktivitet
Den amerikanske romfartsadministrasjonen, NASA, har igangsatt et forskningsprosjekt som skal lese passasjerenes hjerne- og hjerteaktivitet for å avdekke hvem som har skumle hensikter for flyturen.
Flyinfo sendes politiet
Britiske myndigheter har bestemt seg for at alle som skal inn i eller ut av landet, må svare på 53 spørsmål. Det dreier seg blant annet om kontaktnummer under ferieoppholdet, hvem man reiser sammen med, og hvilke reiseplaner man har. Opplysningene må overleveres når man kjøper billetten, og distribueres til politimyndigheter, tollvesen, immigrasjonsmyndigheter og sikkerhetstjenesten innen 24 timer før avreise.
Lagrer fingeravtrykk
Når du har landet på amerikansk jord, blir du tatt bilde av og må avgi fingeravtrykk. Fra 2009 skal det gis avtrykk av samtlige fingre, og ikke bare to som tidligere. Systemet skal innføres ved alle amerikanske flyplasser, havner og grenseoverganger, samt ved amerikanske ambassader i forbindelse med visasøknader. Dataene skal lagres i en database i inntil 75 år. Innen juni 2009 skal alle pass og ID-kort i EU-området utstyres med elektronisk lagret foto og fingeravtrykk. Norge og Island plikter å følge kravet gjennom Schengen-samarbeidet.
Ansiktsgjenkjenning
I august 2008 ble det igangsatt en prøveordning for automatisk ansiktsgjenkjenning av flypassasjerer på flyplassen i Manchester og på Stansted i London. Hvis forsøket er vellykket, er planen at utstyret skal være standard ved de fleste flyplasser i Storbritannia i 2010. På Schipol flyplass i Amsterdam har man installert irisskannere.
Ganglag-gjenkjenning
Det amerikanske militærets forsknings- og utviklingsenhet, DARPA, er i ferd med å utvikle et elektronisk system for gjenkjenning av ganglag. Dette skal blant annet brukes til å sortere ut dem som har adgang til regjeringsbygg, på opptil 150 meters avstand. Andre systemer som ligger i støpeskjeen, er gjenkjenning via håndavtrykk, ansiktsuttrykk, øreform, DNA-analyse og kroppslukt.
Identitetsregister
I Storbritannia er det vedtatt å innføre et nasjonalt identitetsregister som skal inneholde opptil 49 opplysninger om alle som befinner seg i landet. Fra 2009 skal alle også ha biometriske ID-kort som knyttes opp mot det nasjonale registeret. Kortet skal blant annet brukes for identifisering på helsekontorer, arbeidskontorer, bibliotek og andre offentlige institusjoner.
Snakkende kamera
Storbritannia har 4,2 millioner sikkerhetskameraer, ett per 14. innbygger. En gjennomsnittlig brite vil filmes 300 ganger per dag. I dag er det ikke lenger science fiction at en høyttaler ber deg plukke opp søppelet du nettopp har kastet på bakken.
Kommunikasjonsovervåking
Echelon, som av mange beskrives som verdens største overvåkningssystem, er underlagt USAs føderale etterretningsorgan, NSA. Systemet har vært hemmeligholdt, men en rapport fra EU-parlamentets teknologivurderingsorgan bekreftet at det finnes, og at formålet er å overvåke all form for elektronisk kommunikasjon, blant annet telefonsamtaler, SMS, faks, e-post og internettrafikk.
Nettbruk-kartlegging
EUs nye datalagringsdirektiv innebærer at det vil registreres hvem du kommuniserer med (gjennom e-post, telefon og SMS), på hvilket tidspunkt, og hvor du befinner deg når du gjør det, samt når du er logget på Internett (ved hjelp av IP-adressen og navn og adresse som følger abonnementet). Dataene skal lagres mellom seks måneder og to år.
Private spionprogram
På Internett kan man kjøpe spionprogramvare for 300-400 kroner som gjør det mulig å totalovervåke en annen mobiltelefon — alt fra hvem vedkommende ringer til og mottar anrop fra, SMS kommunikasjon, adresseliste og WAP-bruk. Man kan også kjøpe programmer som avlytter mobiltelefonens mikrofon, til og med når den ligger passivt i rommet.
Online pc-ransaking
Den tyske innenriksministeren, Wolfgang Schäuble har tatt til orde for at politiet bør gis lov til å gjennomføre online-ransakning av tyske borgeres pc-er.
Utdragene er hentet fra Joakim Hammerlins bok «Terrorindustrien», gjengitt med tillatelse fra forfatteren og forlaget Manifest.
I dag lanserer Hammerlin boka Terrorindustrien, der han hevder at terrorisme ikke utgjør noen stor trussel.
— Frykten for terrorisme har imidlertid banet veien for en samfunnsutvikling mot mer overvåkning og økt kontroll. Terrorfrykten gir næring både til terroristen og terrorindustrien, sier Joakim Hammerlin til Dagbladet.
Han mener terrorindustrien har skapt et vrengebilde og lanserer de fire B-er: Bin Laden, Bush, Blackwater og BBC, som representanter for henholdsvis terrorisme, politikk, sikkerhetsbransje og massemedia.
Til hvilken pris?
Nå utfordrer Hammerlin Stortinget til å legge ned veto mot EUs datalagringsdirektiv.
—?Datalagringsdirektivet vil innebære et grunnleggende skifte i norsk overvåkningspraksis. Man går fra målrettet overvåkning av enkeltpersoner til massekartlegging av borgernes elektroniske kommunikasjon. Jeg foreslår også at det nedsettes en offentlig individvernkommisjon som kan avdekke de demokratiske omkostningene av terrorbekjempelsen etter 11. september 2001. Vi har krav på å få vite hvor effektive de ulike tiltakene i forhold til å bekjempe terrorisme er, og hvilken pris de har i form av tapte rettigheter og tapt frihet, mener Hammerlin.
Selvransakelse
Filosofen ble kontaktet av forlaget Manifest etter å ha skrevet hovedoppgave om terrorisme.
—?Jeg har oppdaget oppsiktsvekkende og skremmende saker underveis. Formålet med boka er å få fram opplysninger som folk flest ikke vet om. Mange nye kontrolltiltak er iverksatt uten å ha vært oppe til politisk debatt. Det er tid for selvransakelse. Jeg håper nå at det norske samfunnet tør ta diskusjonen. Aksepterer vi at kommandolinjene går fra Washington via Brussel til Oslo, spør han.
Makt forskyves
I boka redegjør Hammerlin for hvilke problemer som kan oppstå i kontrollsamfunnet.
Gjennom små skritt nærmer vi oss en annen samfunnstilstand, der maktforholdet mellom myndighetene og befolkningen forskyves.
Det lagres enorme mengder informasjon om hvem vi er, hva vi gjør, hvor vi beveger oss, og hvem vi kommuniserer med. Samlet skaper lagring av denne typen informasjon en mulighet for å føre utstrakt kontroll med borgerne.
Ideen om et totalkontrollerende system, som vet alt om alt og alle, er ikke lenger bare en abstrakt problemstilling. Det er en konkret politisk mulighet. Vissheten om at alt kan overvåkes gjør noe med hele mentaliteten vår.
Peanøtter dødeligere enn terror
Joakim Hammerlin mener sjansen for å omkomme på grunn av terror er betydelig overdrevet, og illustrerer med følgende sammenlikning:
• USA har et gjennomsnitt på litt over 80 dødsfall per år på grunn av terror de siste 40 år.
• I gjennomsnitt er det flere amerikanere som årlig omkommer av lynnedslag (87), tornadoer (82), peanøttallergi (100) og kollisjon med hjort (135).
• Det er fire ganger så mange som omkommer i drukningsulykker i badekar (320) og nesten ni ganger så mange som omkommer som følge av at polstrede møbler har tatt fyr (693).
— Frykten for terrorisme har imidlertid banet veien for en samfunnsutvikling mot mer overvåkning og økt kontroll. Terrorfrykten gir næring både til terroristen og terrorindustrien, sier Joakim Hammerlin til Dagbladet.
Han mener terrorindustrien har skapt et vrengebilde og lanserer de fire B-er: Bin Laden, Bush, Blackwater og BBC, som representanter for henholdsvis terrorisme, politikk, sikkerhetsbransje og massemedia.
Til hvilken pris?
Nå utfordrer Hammerlin Stortinget til å legge ned veto mot EUs datalagringsdirektiv.
—?Datalagringsdirektivet vil innebære et grunnleggende skifte i norsk overvåkningspraksis. Man går fra målrettet overvåkning av enkeltpersoner til massekartlegging av borgernes elektroniske kommunikasjon. Jeg foreslår også at det nedsettes en offentlig individvernkommisjon som kan avdekke de demokratiske omkostningene av terrorbekjempelsen etter 11. september 2001. Vi har krav på å få vite hvor effektive de ulike tiltakene i forhold til å bekjempe terrorisme er, og hvilken pris de har i form av tapte rettigheter og tapt frihet, mener Hammerlin.
Selvransakelse
Filosofen ble kontaktet av forlaget Manifest etter å ha skrevet hovedoppgave om terrorisme.
—?Jeg har oppdaget oppsiktsvekkende og skremmende saker underveis. Formålet med boka er å få fram opplysninger som folk flest ikke vet om. Mange nye kontrolltiltak er iverksatt uten å ha vært oppe til politisk debatt. Det er tid for selvransakelse. Jeg håper nå at det norske samfunnet tør ta diskusjonen. Aksepterer vi at kommandolinjene går fra Washington via Brussel til Oslo, spør han.
Makt forskyves
I boka redegjør Hammerlin for hvilke problemer som kan oppstå i kontrollsamfunnet.
Gjennom små skritt nærmer vi oss en annen samfunnstilstand, der maktforholdet mellom myndighetene og befolkningen forskyves.
Det lagres enorme mengder informasjon om hvem vi er, hva vi gjør, hvor vi beveger oss, og hvem vi kommuniserer med. Samlet skaper lagring av denne typen informasjon en mulighet for å føre utstrakt kontroll med borgerne.
Ideen om et totalkontrollerende system, som vet alt om alt og alle, er ikke lenger bare en abstrakt problemstilling. Det er en konkret politisk mulighet. Vissheten om at alt kan overvåkes gjør noe med hele mentaliteten vår.
Peanøtter dødeligere enn terror
Joakim Hammerlin mener sjansen for å omkomme på grunn av terror er betydelig overdrevet, og illustrerer med følgende sammenlikning:
• USA har et gjennomsnitt på litt over 80 dødsfall per år på grunn av terror de siste 40 år.
• I gjennomsnitt er det flere amerikanere som årlig omkommer av lynnedslag (87), tornadoer (82), peanøttallergi (100) og kollisjon med hjort (135).
• Det er fire ganger så mange som omkommer i drukningsulykker i badekar (320) og nesten ni ganger så mange som omkommer som følge av at polstrede møbler har tatt fyr (693).
Send inn spørsmål til nettmøtet her!
Nettmøtet er avsluttet. Les svarene fra Joakim Hammerlin nedenfor.
Hva kan vi gjøre?
Jeg tror det er svært viktig at vi begynner å diskutere dette, og at det skapes en vilje blant politikerne til å ta dette på alvor fordi velgermassen krever det. Vi trenger en bred samfunnsdiskusjon, og tiden er overmoden!
Dette var siste svar. Takk til alle gode spørsmål. Til dem som jeg ikke rakk vil jeg beklage så mye.
Med ønsker om en god dag!
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Merkelig logikk
Igjen: Boken sier mer om dette enn bare å sammenlikne antallet døde av terrorisme med peanøttallergi.
Koblingen mellom masseødeleggelsesvåpen og terrorisme er det viktig å ta på alvor. Det er et langt kap. om dette i boken, men generelt vil jeg si at det viktigste virkemiddelet her vil være å sikre disse våpnene.
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Tall
Hei Raul,
Et godt poeng. Du får svar på dette med terrorbekjempelsens effekt i boka. Men generelt har jeg følgende svar: Jeg mener ikke at man skal legge ned E-tjenesten eller PST og gi slipp på alle virkemidler for å bekjempe terrorisme. Mitt poeng i boken er at man bør fokusere på det som virker, nemlig spydspisset overvåkning av visse risikogrupper. Det er dette som har vist seg mest effektivt. Det jeg er imot er de tiltakene som har store demokratiske kostnader fordi det rammer hver og en av oss (og som dessuten ikke er spesielt effektive i forhold til terrorbekjempelse).
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Terror og turisme
Det finnes en del forskning på dette. Blant annet om forholdet mellom nedgang i turisme etter terroranslag. Dessverre blir det for omfattende her.
Lykke til!
(Og takk for tituleringen!)
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Terror mer.
Du kan få utførlig svar på spørsmålet ditt i boka, men i Vesten har det ikke vært en økning i antallet terrorofre etter 11.september. Faktisk er tilfellet motsatt.
Dette med avverging er en viktig innvending som jeg har et utførlig svar på i boken, men det blir for omfattende nå. Tiden er ute!
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Ikke-vold
Hvis du med ikke-vold mener å benytte andre metoder enn å bekjempe terrorisme med krig, vil jeg si dette er den rette veien å gå. Det er viktig å svekke ekstremistiske krefter ved å styrke de moderate, og å forsøke å bistå utviklingen av levedyktige demokratier (men uten å invadere).
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Hva gjør det med oss
Jeg tar opp alle disse spørsmålene i boka. De er jo ganske omfattende, og kan ikke behandles i dybden her, men til det første vil jeg si at det definitivt gjør noe med oss. Det er nettopp derfor det er så viktig å ta tak i dette nå, før utviklingen går for langt.
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Forenkling
Se svar over. Jeg har skrevet en bok, ikke artiklene om boka.
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Epler og pærer
Jeg må understreke at boka gir et mer omfattende perspektiv på dette enn det som har kommet frem i mediene. Poenget med peanøtter og lynnedslag er å sette trusselen i relieff, og dette er bare en liten del av den tredjedelen av boka som handler om hvor stor trusselen fra terrorisme egentlig er.
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Hva er terrorisme, og kan det rettferdiggjøres?
Synes du reiser mange viktige spørsmål her, men de blir nok litt for omfattende i denne sammenheng. Antallet ofre for terrorisme bygger på RANDs definisjon og tall. Argumentet i boka er forresten mye mer omfattende enn bare peanøttallergi.
Jeg skrev faktisk en hovedoppgave om terrordefinisjoner og om terrorisme noensinne kan forsvares i sin tid, så du kan jo ta en kikk på den i forhold til begge spørsmålene dine. Du finner den på UB eller i nettversjon på Bibsys.
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Datalagringsdirektivet er ikke overvåkning
Jeg er ikke enig med deg i at datalagring praktisk talt er helt uskadelig. Husk på at det å lagre denne typen informasjon (utover den tiden som er nødvendig for fakturering) er forbudt i Norge i dag. Det er en grunn til dette!
Det er interessant å diskutere forholdet mellom datalagring og overvåkning, men det blir dessverre for omfattende i denne sammenheng. Jeg skriver om det i boka.
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Teori vs praksis
Også jeg mener at det er viktig å leve i et trygt samfunn, men jeg synes også at det er viktig å leve i et fritt samfunn. Disse må veies opp mot hverandre. Jeg mener at vi har vekslet inn for mye frihet i sikkerhet de siste åtte årene.
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årsaler til terrorisme
Omfattende spørsmål. Det finnes ganske mye god empiri på dette, og det finnes svar. Mitt råd er å se på Bjørgos "Root causes...". Ypperlig bok!
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Bagdad
Argumentet i boka er hakket mer raffinert i boka enn det som har fremkommet i avisene. Blant annet står det mange interessante tall om hvor stor andel av det totale antallet mennesker som har omkommet i terroraksjoner siden 11. september som har mistet livet i Irak. Jeg kan røpe at det er en ekstremt høy prosentandel...
Så jeg er enig med deg. Fokuset mitt i boken er primært Vesten, hvor terrorfaren er lav.
Fint at vi er enige om datalagring og overvåkning!
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Korfor skjer det?
Se tidligere svar om norske politikere og hvorfor denne utviklingen har skjedd.
Jeg tror det dreier seg om en terrorindustri, hvor visse politikere er en av aktørene. I tillegg kommer massemediene og de økonomiske profitørene. Og selvsagt terroristene selv. Det tar for lang tid å forklare alle disse her, men det står mye om dette i boka!
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Du har helt rett
Takk for hyggelige ord!
Mentalitetsendringen du snakker om, og som jeg er helt enig i at er svært farlig, vil nok være vanskelig å snu. Men det er mulig! Og mye skyldes nok at det er mange som ikke vet hvor ille det er.
Dessuten tror jeg det er viktig å minne om at et demokratisk system er en skjør samfunnstilstand. Historien har vist at det fort kan skli ut i autoritære systemer. Tanken om at en Hitler skulle kunne råde over de overvåknings- og kontrollmulighetene som vi er i ferd med å etablere, bør være nok til at det går kaldt nedover ryggen på folk. Minn dem om det!
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USA styrt?
Jeg tror ikke at norske politikere har hatt et brennede ønske om å skape et overvåkningssamfunn. Ei heller å sende avgårde soldater. Årsaken til at de har valgt å følge USA og EU skyldes nok at de politiske omkostningene ved å tale Brussel og Washington imot anses å være for store.
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Lovlig hacking
Det finnes en rekke eksempler på tiltak som har startet et sted (gjerne USA eller nettopp Storbritannia) sprer seg videre. Les om dem i boka! Men for å svare konkret på spørsmålet ditt, vil jeg si at det ikke ville overraske meg hvis det gjorde det. Etter terroraksjonene i Madrid og London har EU vært en pådriver mot strengere antiterrortiltak.
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Hva er terror
Ja, det finnes mange definisjoner på terrorisme som ikke omfatter krigshandlinger. Personlig er jeg tilhenger av en så snever definisjon som mulig, fordi vide definisjoner ofte har vist seg å være hendige instrumenter for politiske myndigheter som ønsker å bruke terrorismestempelet for å undertrykke opposisjon.
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USA
Er det mulig å stoppe overvåkningssamfunnet?
Ja, det tror jeg. Men det skjer ikke av seg selv. Det fordrer at vi, borgerne, setter krav til politikerne om hvordan det bør være. Dessuten tror jeg mye av årsaken til at overvåkningssamfunnet har fått lov til å utvikle seg har å gjøre med mangel på kunnskap - både i befolkningen generelt og blant politikere. Jeg skrev denne boka for å forsøke å spre kunnskap om hva som skjer. Forhåpentligvis kan det bli en mulighet til å reise en overmoden debatt om dette.
Til det andre spørsmålet ditt: Personlig tror jeg ikke at Bush-administrasjonen sto bak angrepene den 11.september. Konspirasjonsteoriene du nevner kjenner jeg selvsagt til, og de er - mildt sagt - av varierende kvalitet. Men jeg har altså ikke latt meg overbevise.
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God bok ;)
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Exposed
I get your point. My argument in the book is not just about being struck by lightning or peanuts. Just for the record.
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Hva kan vi gjøre?
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Jeg ser veldig godt poengene dine og har lenge fryktet det samme, at vi får et kontrollsammfunn hvor vi alle er overvåket til enhver tid.. Derfor lurer jeg på hva vi "vanlige" mennesker kan gjøre for å forsøke å motvirke dette?
Innsendt av: Bjørnar
Jeg tror det er svært viktig at vi begynner å diskutere dette, og at det skapes en vilje blant politikerne til å ta dette på alvor fordi velgermassen krever det. Vi trenger en bred samfunnsdiskusjon, og tiden er overmoden!
Dette var siste svar. Takk til alle gode spørsmål. Til dem som jeg ikke rakk vil jeg beklage så mye.
Med ønsker om en god dag!
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Merkelig logikk
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Hei Joakim!
Du bruker snitt antall dødsfall per år for å forklare at terror ikke egentlig er noe å være redd for i forhold til ting som peanøttallergi og drukningsulykker.
Da begynner jeg å lure.. Bør man ikke også se på hvor mange liv som går med samtidig når man skal avgjøre hva man bør være redd for?
Hvis plutselig 3000 mennesker druknet i badekar mellom kl. 13:00 og 14:00 innenfor en radius av f.eks 200 meter, så kunne en kanskje sagt at badekarulykker er mer å være redd for enn terror.
Betyr det da at man kan lempe på restriksjonene på atomvåpen, biologiske våpen og slikt i og med at disse totalt sett har tatt færre liv de siste hundre år enn f.eks sultkatastrofer og bilulykker?
Mvh Nils
(PS. Jada, jeg vet at du ikke kommer til å svare på dette spørsmålet, men det er jo lov å prøve, ikke sant?)
Innsendt av: Nils
Igjen: Boken sier mer om dette enn bare å sammenlikne antallet døde av terrorisme med peanøttallergi.
Koblingen mellom masseødeleggelsesvåpen og terrorisme er det viktig å ta på alvor. Det er et langt kap. om dette i boken, men generelt vil jeg si at det viktigste virkemiddelet her vil være å sikre disse våpnene.
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Tall
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Fint, i og for seg, å se antall terrorismedødsfall sammenlignet med andre typer dødsfall. Men er ikke det forholdsvis lave antallet delvis forårsaket nettopp av at man bekjemper terrorisme med blant annet de virkemidlene du er kritisk til?
Sagt annerledes, hadde ikke terrordødsfallene slått badekar-dødsfall hvis man tenkte "ah, det er vel ikke så farlig, da" og CIA, NSA, osv. begynte å overvåke badekar i stedet for potensielle terrorister?
Innsendt av: Raul de Sana
Hei Raul,
Et godt poeng. Du får svar på dette med terrorbekjempelsens effekt i boka. Men generelt har jeg følgende svar: Jeg mener ikke at man skal legge ned E-tjenesten eller PST og gi slipp på alle virkemidler for å bekjempe terrorisme. Mitt poeng i boken er at man bør fokusere på det som virker, nemlig spydspisset overvåkning av visse risikogrupper. Det er dette som har vist seg mest effektivt. Det jeg er imot er de tiltakene som har store demokratiske kostnader fordi det rammer hver og en av oss (og som dessuten ikke er spesielt effektive i forhold til terrorbekjempelse).
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Terror og turisme
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Hva syns De om terror er en utfordring for turisme?
Jeg er student i Universitet i Stavanger og holder på å skrive becholeroppgave om "Hvordan reiselivsnæringen forholder seg til risiko som reisende har i tilfeller av terrorisme?" så eg håper at De kunne bidra med noe synspunkter.
Mvh
Melahat Turan
Takk på forhånd
Innsendt av: Melahat Turan
Det finnes en del forskning på dette. Blant annet om forholdet mellom nedgang i turisme etter terroranslag. Dessverre blir det for omfattende her.
Lykke til!
(Og takk for tituleringen!)
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Terror mer.
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Hei du må vel innrømme at etter 11 september så har det foregått betydelig mer terror. 11 september utløste en kjedereaksjon, og du må også at tenkte på at mange terror angrep har blitt averget. Årlig dør også 1000 personer i Norge av influensa, men betyr det at terror skal vi fokusere mindre på?
Terror har det alltid vært i samfunnet, men etter 11 september så har det fått en ny status. Jeg er imot det med datalagering.
Innsendt av: koz
Du kan få utførlig svar på spørsmålet ditt i boka, men i Vesten har det ikke vært en økning i antallet terrorofre etter 11.september. Faktisk er tilfellet motsatt.
Dette med avverging er en viktig innvending som jeg har et utførlig svar på i boken, men det blir for omfattende nå. Tiden er ute!
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Ikke-vold
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Hva tror du om en ikke voldelig tilnæring for å bekjempe terror?
Innsendt av: diplomaten
Hvis du med ikke-vold mener å benytte andre metoder enn å bekjempe terrorisme med krig, vil jeg si dette er den rette veien å gå. Det er viktig å svekke ekstremistiske krefter ved å styrke de moderate, og å forsøke å bistå utviklingen av levedyktige demokratier (men uten å invadere).
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Hva gjør det med oss
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Hei.
1. Du sier at overvåking "gjør noe med oss". Regner med at du gir ditt svar på dette i boka. Har du et svar her også?
2. Er interessert i forholdet mellom tillit (som samfunnets lim) og overvåking. Sier du noe om dette i boka di?
2. Hva med den sivile "overvåkinga", (mobilkameraer osv.) Er dette et tema du tar opp?
Innsendt av: Svein Anders Noer Lie
Jeg tar opp alle disse spørsmålene i boka. De er jo ganske omfattende, og kan ikke behandles i dybden her, men til det første vil jeg si at det definitivt gjør noe med oss. Det er nettopp derfor det er så viktig å ta tak i dette nå, før utviklingen går for langt.
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Forenkling
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Nå er vel ikke terrorisme bare et spørsmål om hvor mange som dør av det, men det gir jo et visst uttrykk for et hat mellom forskjellige folkegrupper og religioner. Dette skal man kanskje ta alvorlig eller?
Er så lei av sånn "sette opp mot hverandre"- forskning at jeg blir kvalm.
Skjerp deg!
Innsendt av: Zclimy
Se svar over. Jeg har skrevet en bok, ikke artiklene om boka.
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Epler og pærer
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Hva er vitsen med å sammenligne dødsfall som kommer av uhell (lyn, allergi, drukning - uhell) og terrorisme (overlagt massemord), annet enn å bagatellisere det hele på en feilaktig måte?
Jeg og andre kan nok være enig med at mediene, myndighetene, og andre har overdrevet terrorisme for å tjene på det, men å regelrett bagatellisere faren for terrorisme blir skivebom.
Er ikke grunnen til at folk frykter terrorisme mer enn f.eks. peanøttallergi fordi det er noe de ikke har like mye kontroll over selv? Er det ikke fordi det er en kriminell handling som kan forhindres, og ikke et uhell som i de fleste tilfeller ikke går an å beskytte seg mot?
Innsendt av: G
Jeg må understreke at boka gir et mer omfattende perspektiv på dette enn det som har kommet frem i mediene. Poenget med peanøtter og lynnedslag er å sette trusselen i relieff, og dette er bare en liten del av den tredjedelen av boka som handler om hvor stor trusselen fra terrorisme egentlig er.
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Jeg har ikke lest boka di, men lurte på om du hadde med følgende vinkel av saken: Det er og slik at den som virkelig vil være terrorist, og/eller kriminell alltid vil finne måter å slippe unna på. Man bruker gjerne andres identiteter som "skalkeskjul", kombinert med at man ellers tar i bruk sikrere former for kommunikasjon, f.eks. en kryptert messengertjeneste.
Og dette er jo ikke engang særlig vanskelig å få til: Et lite Google-søk, og så noen tastatrykk, så er man i mål.
Mitt spørsmål har alltid vært: Hvorfor er det slik at kriminelle alltid blir så kraftig undervurdert? Man tror tydeligvis at alle kriminelle kommuniserer fritt, i det åpne rom, over tjenester som f.eks. Facebook, som om de skulle vært en gjeng ni-åringer!
Hva mener du??
Innsendt av: MT
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Hva er terrorisme, og kan det rettferdiggjøres?
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Hei Joakim,
jeg har to spørsmål (begge er muligens for omfattende til uttømmes tilstrekkelig i dette ¿nettmøtet¿, men la gå). Begrepet om ¿terrorisme¿ synes vanskelig å beskrive og mitt første spørsmål er: (1) hvordan definerer du terrorisme? Hvordan forstå terrorisme er et problem fordi det ser ut til at det er et skille mellom våre erfaringer av terrorisme og våre ¿intellektuelle¿ redskaper for å forstå begrepet om terrorisme. I den forstand at terrorisme på den ene siden ikke er noe vi erfarer i hverdagen, mens på den andre siden er terrorisme et tema som tas opp gang på gang opp av massemedia. Det fører til at terrorisme er fraværende (i vår konkrete erfaring) og nærværende (gjennom media) på samme tid. I tillegg ser det ut til at massemedia fremstiller terrorister utelukkende som ikke-statelige grupperinger: hva(/hvem) er en terrorist? Hvis definisjonen på terrorisme og terrorist inkluderer statelige aktører (f. eks. de aliertes bombing av Tyskland under slutten av andre verdenskrig(?)), så vil vel sjansen for å omkomme på grunn av terrorisme øke betraktelig i forhold til å dø av peanøttallergi? (Synes forresten peanøtt-analogien din halter litt, fordi de fleste med peanøttallergi er klar over at de må være forsiktig med peanøtter - mens terrorisme kjennetegnes vel av at det kan ramme hvem som helst og hvor som helst.)
Det andre spørsmålet er todelt: (2) Kan terrorisme rettferdiggjøres? Og er F. M. Kamms prinsipp om tillatelig skade (PPH: det er tillatelig å forårsake et mindre onde hvis det er produsert av et større gode) et tilstrekkelig prinsipp for å rettferdiggjøre terrorisme?
Ser frem til å lese boken din.
vh
Eskil
Innsendt av: Eskil
Synes du reiser mange viktige spørsmål her, men de blir nok litt for omfattende i denne sammenheng. Antallet ofre for terrorisme bygger på RANDs definisjon og tall. Argumentet i boka er forresten mye mer omfattende enn bare peanøttallergi.
Jeg skrev faktisk en hovedoppgave om terrordefinisjoner og om terrorisme noensinne kan forsvares i sin tid, så du kan jo ta en kikk på den i forhold til begge spørsmålene dine. Du finner den på UB eller i nettversjon på Bibsys.
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Datalagringsdirektivet er ikke overvåkning
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Greit nok at noen deler av datalagringsdirektivet er direkte ubrukelige og ikke burde innføres i Norge, men at du bruker begrep som 'overvåkning' om det er spesielt uheldig når du prøver å fremstå som nøktern om terrorisme og antiterrortiltak.
Datalagringsdirektivet innebærer ikke overvåkning, med mindre du mener at alle som bruker mobil- eller banktjenester blir overvåket pr. idag. Overvåkning betyr å føre oppsyn med, og datalagringsdirektivet innebærer kun lagring av trafikkdata - derav navnet datalagringsdirektivet.
Du som har gått myndighetene i sømmene hva det angår antiterrortiltak burde vite (noe jeg er sikker på du vet) at 'overvåkning' har en helt annen betydning enn dette.
Syns du det ikke minner litt om hykleri når du advarer mot dem som roper ulv om terrorisme, når du selv roper ulv om noe som er praktisk talt helt uskadelig?
Innsendt av: George Gooding
Jeg er ikke enig med deg i at datalagring praktisk talt er helt uskadelig. Husk på at det å lagre denne typen informasjon (utover den tiden som er nødvendig for fakturering) er forbudt i Norge i dag. Det er en grunn til dette!
Det er interessant å diskutere forholdet mellom datalagring og overvåkning, men det blir dessverre for omfattende i denne sammenheng. Jeg skriver om det i boka.
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Teori vs praksis
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Hei Joakim!
Har du noen gang selv følt på kroppen hvordan det er å ikke ha sikkerhet? Å vite at det er en betydelig risiko for at bare en tur i butikken kan bli din siste. Har du f.eks kjørt buss i Israel under intifadaen eller bodd i Bagdad de siste årene?
Menneskerettighetene sier dessuten at alle mennesker har krav på sikkerhet. Skal det være nødvendig å vente til etter et stort angrep før en bedrer sikkerheten?
Innsendt av: Nils
Også jeg mener at det er viktig å leve i et trygt samfunn, men jeg synes også at det er viktig å leve i et fritt samfunn. Disse må veies opp mot hverandre. Jeg mener at vi har vekslet inn for mye frihet i sikkerhet de siste åtte årene.
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årsaler til terrorisme
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Hva vil du si er de mest pålitelig årsakene til terrorisme? Jeg skrive oppgave og har kommet over mye rart.
Innsendt av: Mynte
Omfattende spørsmål. Det finnes ganske mye god empiri på dette, og det finnes svar. Mitt råd er å se på Bjørgos "Root causes...". Ypperlig bok!
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Bagdad
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"Peanøtter dødeligere enn terror" - har du fremstilt dette til borgerene av Bagdad - slik at de kan slappe litt mer av i hverdagens kjas og mas.
Men allers deler jeg din bekymring om datalagring og overvåking, noe AP ikke har skjønt.
Innsendt av: Ståle
Argumentet i boka er hakket mer raffinert i boka enn det som har fremkommet i avisene. Blant annet står det mange interessante tall om hvor stor andel av det totale antallet mennesker som har omkommet i terroraksjoner siden 11. september som har mistet livet i Irak. Jeg kan røpe at det er en ekstremt høy prosentandel...
Så jeg er enig med deg. Fokuset mitt i boken er primært Vesten, hvor terrorfaren er lav.
Fint at vi er enige om datalagring og overvåkning!
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Korfor skjer det?
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Uten å ha lest boka eller på anna måte satt meg inn i problemet: Kven er det som styrer denne utviklinga? Det meist nærliggande er vel den politiske makta, dvs. dei folkevalgte - men kva slags motivasjon skulle dei ha for å kontrollere folket?
Innsendt av: Magdalena
Se tidligere svar om norske politikere og hvorfor denne utviklingen har skjedd.
Jeg tror det dreier seg om en terrorindustri, hvor visse politikere er en av aktørene. I tillegg kommer massemediene og de økonomiske profitørene. Og selvsagt terroristene selv. Det tar for lang tid å forklare alle disse her, men det står mye om dette i boka!
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Du har helt rett
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Det kan på ingen måte rasjonaliseres at det brukes astronomiske summer på å "bekjempe" et problem som er så marginalt. Særlig med tanke på at noen av de allierte i "krigen mot terror" er blant de mest ekstreme hva gjelder spredning av både terror og statsterror.
Et av de største hindrene for et overvåkningsfritt samfunn er den store andelen mennesker som tror at "så lenge jeg ikke har noe å skjule, har jeg ingenting å frykte". Hvordan skal man komme denne mentaliteten til livs?
Innsendt av: Ida Aurelia Thams
Takk for hyggelige ord!
Mentalitetsendringen du snakker om, og som jeg er helt enig i at er svært farlig, vil nok være vanskelig å snu. Men det er mulig! Og mye skyldes nok at det er mange som ikke vet hvor ille det er.
Dessuten tror jeg det er viktig å minne om at et demokratisk system er en skjør samfunnstilstand. Historien har vist at det fort kan skli ut i autoritære systemer. Tanken om at en Hitler skulle kunne råde over de overvåknings- og kontrollmulighetene som vi er i ferd med å etablere, bør være nok til at det går kaldt nedover ryggen på folk. Minn dem om det!
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USA styrt?
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Hvor mye tror du norske politikere lar seg styre fra usa når det kommer til spørsmål rundt terrorisme?
Tenker da feks på at vi sendte nedover soldater når det var stort flertall mot dette, samt ting du nevnte som datalagring.
Innsendt av:
Jeg tror ikke at norske politikere har hatt et brennede ønske om å skape et overvåkningssamfunn. Ei heller å sende avgårde soldater. Årsaken til at de har valgt å følge USA og EU skyldes nok at de politiske omkostningene ved å tale Brussel og Washington imot anses å være for store.
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Lovlig hacking
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I England har de som kjent kommet en lov som tillater politiet å lovlig hacke personer uten rettslig kjennelse. Altså ved skjellig grunn til misstanke.
Tror du dette er noe som kan smitte over på EU, og videre til Norge via EØS? Tror du England kan påvirke EU til å gå med på et slikt vedtak, (baby-steps metoden) eller er dette en sak EU typisk ikke vil godta?
Innsendt av: ThomasB
Det finnes en rekke eksempler på tiltak som har startet et sted (gjerne USA eller nettopp Storbritannia) sprer seg videre. Les om dem i boka! Men for å svare konkret på spørsmålet ditt, vil jeg si at det ikke ville overraske meg hvis det gjorde det. Etter terroraksjonene i Madrid og London har EU vært en pådriver mot strengere antiterrortiltak.
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Hva er terror
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Finnes det noen definisjon av terrorvirksomhet som ikke omfavner alle typer krigshandlinger?
Innsendt av: Karl-Erlend Mikalsen
Ja, det finnes mange definisjoner på terrorisme som ikke omfatter krigshandlinger. Personlig er jeg tilhenger av en så snever definisjon som mulig, fordi vide definisjoner ofte har vist seg å være hendige instrumenter for politiske myndigheter som ønsker å bruke terrorismestempelet for å undertrykke opposisjon.
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USA
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Først må jeg takke deg for å belyse dette onde som folk ser ut til å svelge uten nærmere ettertanke.
Tror du at det er mulig å stoppe utviklingen til et et totalt overvåkningssamfunn?
Hvis USA hadde scenesatt 11.september, ville det det vært veldig beleilig i forhold til invasjonen i Irak. Tror du at det er sannsynlig at disse konspirasjonsteoriene kan inneholde noen form for sannhet?
Innsendt av: Rene
Er det mulig å stoppe overvåkningssamfunnet?
Ja, det tror jeg. Men det skjer ikke av seg selv. Det fordrer at vi, borgerne, setter krav til politikerne om hvordan det bør være. Dessuten tror jeg mye av årsaken til at overvåkningssamfunnet har fått lov til å utvikle seg har å gjøre med mangel på kunnskap - både i befolkningen generelt og blant politikere. Jeg skrev denne boka for å forsøke å spre kunnskap om hva som skjer. Forhåpentligvis kan det bli en mulighet til å reise en overmoden debatt om dette.
Til det andre spørsmålet ditt: Personlig tror jeg ikke at Bush-administrasjonen sto bak angrepene den 11.september. Konspirasjonsteoriene du nevner kjenner jeg selvsagt til, og de er - mildt sagt - av varierende kvalitet. Men jeg har altså ikke latt meg overbevise.
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God bok ;)
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Ingen spørsmål, bare mange mange mange gratulasjoner med boka di ;)
Hilsen Linda i JDV
Innsendt av: linda
Takk for det!
Exposed
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Hello!
Do you think the numbers of terror casualties would increase if people were exposed to acts of terror as frequently as they are exposed to peanuts?
Innsendt av: Nitpicker
I get your point. My argument in the book is not just about being struck by lightning or peanuts. Just for the record.
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